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Because my friend Dr Lisa Winters is not only a talented veterinarian, but she has the most incredible connection with spirit and is also a talented animal communicator. Today Lisa shares her story about how she manifested her dream career as a vet. She shares how her grit and determination led her to where she is today with over 20 years of experience in the vet industry.
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It's going to be the most epic, epic episode. Lisa, welcome to the Level Up With Katie Bee podcast. So, so happy that you are able to join me for a yarn and to share the story of how you manifested your dream career.
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. Yeah, it's so nice we get to hang out because we don't get to hang out very often.
So, it's very, very cool and you're a vet. So, like honestly, I think veterinary professionals are just amazing. I think you guys are working in a really tough industry.
I know that every vet and vet nurse that I've ever met in my life has got the most huge heart, most caring, loving people and you work fucking hard. So, just massive shout out to you for being an incredible vet and to all the other vet professionals out there because we love you. Oh, thank you.
So, what is the origin of your career? Like, when were the seeds first sown? It's interesting because animals have been a part of my life, like all of my life. As far back as I can remember, we always had animals. I lived on a farm.
We had, you know, cows and dogs and chickens and then I remember wanting to have my first pony and that set off my equine career for probably the next 20 some odd years. The horses were the number one position in my life. I trained in the U.S. Horses would take them off the track, retrain them for as showjumpers.
We have hunters and jumpers in the U.S., a little bit different than here in Australia. I had a riding school and that's what I did full-time for many, many years. I started to realize that my body was not going to hold up to what was required of me as a rider and my back was not the best.
I asked myself, what can I do that would make a lot of sense? It was one, either I was going to go to medical school or I was going to go to vet school. So, it was one of those two. I ended up going to vet school and that's what brought me here to Australia to become a vet.
I came in 2001 and I haven't left. Yes, I mean, you and I are both imports, aren't we? So, I totally get that coming to Western Australia in particular. It's such a beautiful place to live.
It sounds like your vet career almost started by accident. It was like you knew you loved animals and you were loving the equine industry, but it wasn't sustainable in the way that you were in amongst it. So, your love for animals made sense that you would become a vet.
So, what were the key moments throughout this manifestation process? Because I know it's not a quick journey, is it? There's a lot of hard work because you're a doctor. You're a doctor. That shit takes time.
Yes, that's right. Well, obviously, when I was in high school, I really hated school. I really hated it.
I couldn't get done fast enough. I didn't care what kind of grades I got. It was just all I wanted to do was show horses and ride horses for a living and that didn't require any form of education when it came to books and learning and those kinds of things.
So, when I decided to go back to school, so back to university, I was starting from a place of having never done algebra in high school, having never taken chemistry in high school. When I was looking at all of the pre-vet requirements at university, I was like, holy shit, I don't know if I'm going to be able to get this done. So, I decided like, well, this is what I'm going to do and so, therefore, it is what I have to do and it's going to take what I have to take.
So, I worked my ass off in school, in university and did ridiculous numbers of credits and every semester doing everything that I needed to do and what was really interesting, what I found out is, is university is completely different than high school. I could see the application of it. I could see the real world use for it.
So, therefore, it was actually easy and it made sense, which is fortunate because that's really what got me through and got me through with good grades to be able to be, you know, accepted into vet school and it was interesting because for me, this manifestation process, getting into vet school, not getting into vet school was never an option. I was going to go to vet school, whatever that looked like, however that looked like and it was going to be whatever it took and there was just no other option and so, when I started, I applied to go to vet school during my sophomore year of university, which is quite early on. I, and I only was, I only applied to the university I was at, which is Washington State University.
It had its vet school there, which is in my home state and I received interview and I made the alternate list, but I didn't get in and it was a bit devastating because I thought, well, hang on a second, this is not an option. Going to vet school is, it's the only option and not getting in was not the option. So, I decided the next year that not getting in was not going to happen.
So, I actually applied to vet schools all over the world and I was like, I'm going to vet school somewhere. Somewhere I'm going to go, whether it be in my home state or whether it be somewhere else and that year I was accepted into multiple different vet schools all around the world and Perth being one of them and the reason I came to Perth was one of my university professors had asked me, he's like, hey, you know, how, how are you going with going to vet, you know, your application and getting entrance and I said, well, you know, I've actually gotten these acceptances and kind of rattled off a few and I got accepted into some pretty prestigious schools, like I was pretty excited about it and one of them being Perth and he said to me, he goes, you know what, he said, Perth is my most favourite place in the world. He's like, it's one of my most favourite cities in the world and I said, well, then that's where I'm going to go and that's what I did.
So, you know, packed two bags and got onto a plane and moved literally the farthest point away from where I live and went to vet school and so it was just, that was, there was no option. I love this story, Lisa, and I think I can really relate to it as well because it's quite interesting. There's a lot of similarities between how I ended up in Perth with my aviation career and also I sucked at high school.
I was super uninterested in school and then when I started learning how to fly, I was like, well, actually, it's not because I'm dumb, it's because I wasn't interested and now that I'm interested in it, it's not so bad, right? Exactly. It sounds like you had the same experience, which is so, I think it's so important for people to hear because we often carry these stories, right, especially from our childhood, you know? Our unconscious is developed mostly between the age of zero and seven, so whatever those formulative years look like can have, be really some stories that we hold on to really tightly, but what I love about your story is like, you kind of rewrote your story to fit what you wanted for your life and you knew so, it sounds like you had such a beautiful passion, you know, that whole concept of deciding that that's what you were going to do and like, fuck it, I don't really care how it's going to happen, but it's going to happen and that's amazing. I'm so happy for you and so, I really want to know, because you've got a beautiful connection with spirit, you're, you also, not only are you an incredible vet, but you have your own business and your business is connecting with animals as a spirit tarot therapist, an animal tarot therapist and I am really curious, did you have that connection at the start of like, when you started vet school or has this been something that's evolved throughout your vet career? That's a great question, Katie.
Actually, I have been communicating with animals since I was about seven years old, so I've always communicated with animals. I didn't realize that not everyone, well, I should reframe that, everyone can communicate with animals. I didn't realize that most people don't communicate with animals for whatever reason, not because they can't, but because they've been told that they can't and so, for me, it was just something that I always did and I never thought anything of it and so, what it allowed for me was to be very successful in my riding career, in my training career, in being able to teach people how to ride and train their horses, because I knew what the horses were thinking.
I could be two steps ahead with them and I could be saying, your horse is telling you this, you know, you need to start this correction and so, you know, they started to learn and I always just felt like it was just how it was and I never really truly put two and two together that I was receiving that information from the actual, you know, from the horses or from the animals until later, you know, kind of in my career and when I started vet school, that's not something that's really, that's not something that they were taught or focused on, but I really believe that vets, whether they think they do or not, all communicate with animals. It's how that diagnostic intuition works, you know, you intuitively, you kind of have a feeling what's going on and I feel that that connection that they're receiving and they just, you know, most vets, you would probably ask that question and they would be like, well, no, that's what we're taught, but I don't think that we're taught that. I think we have that innate ability within us, but as I went into becoming a vet, I realized that I used that communication far more than I thought I would.
I remember, literally, it was the first week of being a new graduate and I had a client come in and they brought their cat in. It was this older cat and I remember that he's this big black cat. I can't remember his name, but I just remember him being this big black cat and he was really quite sick and I was doing a physical exam on him and, of course, as a new graduate, your mind is telling you, you know nothing, like that is what you're taught.
You, you know, that you spend, you know, eight years at university, you know, and four years, you know, of that is or five years of that is going to vet school and they continuously tell you, you know nothing. And so here I am with this cat. My mind's telling me I know nothing.
I'm doing a clinical exam. I can't find anything wrong. And I'm thinking, I don't know.
I have no idea. And I remember scooping his little face up in my hands and like literally just looking into his eyes and saying, okay, so tell me what's wrong with you. And I said it out loud and the owners thought it was quite funny, you know, that here I am like sitting here looking at the cat going, all right, so tell me what's wrong with you.
And that cat told me exactly what was wrong with him. And he was like, I'm really sick. I'm a diabetic.
And so I trusted enough in that having had so many kind of experiences through my whole life that I looked up to the owner and I said, well, he says he's really sick and he's diabetic. So let's do some tests. And sure as shit, that cat was diabetic.
I had no fucking clue. I had no fucking clue other than this cat telling me that that's what it was. And so from that day forward, I still to this day and I've, you know, I'm 20, you know, almost 20 years into my veterinary career.
I will look them in the eye and say, so tell me what's going on with you or what's wrong with you. And so I think that it just one of those things that, you know, it has just always been there and yeah, it allows me to effectively be the best vet that I can be and also take into account so many other things that might be going on for the animals beyond just physical illness, but you know, stuff that they might need to have validated and acknowledged for them to be able to shift in themselves, particularly with behavior issues and those kinds of things. Cause a lot of the time it's because they're mirroring our shit, you know, and owners are like, why is, why is my cat weeing on my bed or acting stressed for do you know why is my dog aggressive and won't let anyone to the door.
And oftentimes the first thing I ask is, well, what's going on in your life that, you know, that they're, that they're back. So it it's a huge, you know, obviously a huge part of, of me as a vet, but also as I, you know, said earlier, I believe that we all can communicate with animals. And so I have set out a mission to teach that and to teach people how to be animal communicators, because I really feel that, that we all can do it.
And we all have all have that ability. And so I've been teaching animal communication for a very long, long time. And I initially just taught it as animal communication.
And it was a bit hard because I found that after they would go while they were in the program and I was holding space for them, they were getting these amazing, you know, messages and you know, all of these kinds of things. But when they left my space, they then they didn't trust and they lacked their confidence. And then they were kind of, they didn't continue on being animal communicators.
And so I was very fortunate to be taking Marina's terror therapy program. And during that time, I was like, right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna create pet terror therapy. And that's how it was born.
And the reason for the creation of it was, is that the cards then became the anchor for the person doing the reading to communicate with the animal. And they had this kind of physical, tangible anchor in their hands, that allowed the messages to come through. And I've now since I have created the pet partnership program with pet terror therapy, the people who have gone through this program, they have now continued on being animal communicators, because when they finish and they're outside of my space, they still have their anchors, and they still have their cards.
And that's what gives them the message and the confidence and the validation to continue the communication with the animals. Oh, so incredible. What a gift, hey? I don't know.
Yes, I think when I first met you, my baby Poppy had just passed away, hey? And I remember talking to you girls in Psychic Circle about it, because I was like heartbroken. But the way you describe everyone being able to communicate with animals, and you the way that you knew that you could communicate with animals, even when maybe it wasn't like a straight up voice or whatever, you knew that you were communicating. And I remember when Poppy was sick, and the vets actually couldn't find anything wrong with her, all her tests were coming back great, but I knew she was sick, Lisa.
I knew she was sick to the point where I was like howling about, I was crying, like I'd come back from vet appointments, and Clay would keep saying to me, you're overthinking this, she's fine. You know, like the vets say that she's fine, the test results have come back good. And I'm like, my baby is not well, I know there's something wrong with her, you know.
And it was like the most heartbreaking thing. She couldn't tell me because I couldn't tune in enough to have that sort of connection with her. But I remember the morning that she passed away, she was sitting on my lap.
And I had my hands on her, I was trying to do Reiki on her, I do not have any qualifications in Reiki, but I was desperate to fix her. And I just sat there and I just sat there with my hands over and spoke to her and was like, I love you so much. And she just softened and she just like fell asleep purring on my lap.
And it was the most relaxed she'd been in ages. And that afternoon, like we didn't know what was going to happen. She went in for a biopsy and they had to put her down because she had cancer.
But I just remembered that moment when she was on my lap, very calm. And it was like, I kind of felt something and I wanted it to be something good. I felt like it was a good sign that she was so relaxed, but I think it was like an understanding that we just loved each other.
Do you know what I mean? Exactly. Exactly. And it's like that validation that you received that it was going to be okay.
Even though it was a difficult situation and even though you didn't want to lose her, it was like that moment of softening and communication and you telling her was allowing her to go, okay, this is okay. I can transition and we'll be okay with it. And I think that people really, truly need to trust that in themselves.
It's a question that often is asked of me every day. How will I know? How will I know when is the right time if an animal is diagnosed with a terminal illness or is unwell? And I tell every single person, they will tell you. They will tell you.
We just have to make sure that we're listening or taking the rose colored glasses off and being prepared for that. So amazing. It sounds like that black cat that came in, was that really the point where you were like, oh, okay, this communication that I have with animals is a little bit more tangible than what it had been before? Was that a point where you were like, oh, shit, this is like for real.
Do you know what I mean? Or had you already known up until then? I had already known before then because I had had many experiences and had already been doing animal communication and having people come to me for readings or asking me to connect with their horses and those kinds of things. But I never really put it to the fact that it was going to help me diagnose illness. And so going all through vet school, that never occurred to me that I would be using that tool as part of my toolbox in being able to diagnose and treat animals.
And so and it wasn't until that point where when that happened that I thought, ah, okay, that's how it works for this. And so it was, I think that it was just that kind of moment in time where it was the aha kind of really smack in the head going, okay, you need to use this as part of your toolbox. Because like I said, it's not something that's taught in vet school.
We're taught all of these other things. And we're taught that we don't know anything. And here it was.
And we're never taught to ask the animal and have them tell us. And so it was that moment for me, for veterinary medicine, that was quite crucial. But prior to that, I had already been communicating just on a different level.
I think it was just on a much more connected level of what the animals were wanting to say, rather than using it as a diagnostic tool. So cool. We're just going to take a short break, Lisa.
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So Lisa, when you manifested your veterinary roles, did you know about manifestation or were you just committed to your vision and bringing it to life? Did you have a connection with spirit and universe to the point where when you said to yourself all those years ago, I'm going to be a vet no matter what it takes, did you have an intentional manifestation process or was this just part of you being committed to bringing your vision to life? It was really truly part of just me being committed and not getting into vet school was not an option. I can reflect back on it now and I can see so many things that occurred as far as that manifestation process. But at the time and when I was in it, um, no, I wasn't actually thinking this is, you know, I'm manifesting this.
It was just in my being that that was how it was going to be, you know, and I think it's the pure pureness of it because no one told me I couldn't, you know, like in that in those moments, no one was telling me you'll not get it, you can't go to vet school, you'll not go in, you know. It was really very interesting. I had, I was about 18 years old and I was actually working for a vet as a receptionist and I think this was, you know, kind of the some of the starting, um, seeding of this kind of manifestation, I think.
And I found it, you know, fascinating and I was always asking questions and I was asking the vet about vet school and what it took to go to vet school and how would, you know, how would you get in and what do you have to do? And he told me at that moment, Lisa, you don't have what it takes to be a vet. And I thought to myself, how really? Because I don't see it that way. Like it was a real kind of moment of, well, we'll see about that.
Because I just didn't, I was just like, why can't I be a vet? Well, you know, why, why are you telling me that I can't do this? And, you know, and obviously it wasn't probably, you know, I was 18 and, you know, I didn't actually start going to university, you know, for probably another, you know, 10 years. But that whole time, those words never left. I'm like, I can still hear them ringing in my head, you know, that I didn't have what it took to become a vet.
So I think that that was that, there was that initial like, well, now this is, I can and I will, and I'm going to show you that I can and I will. And yeah, so it was just, it was just how it was. It was just, there was no other option.
Yeah. But reflecting back now, I can see a lot of space in there. Do you know what, a lot of people that I speak to on the podcast who are living out the dream careers and have achieved the things that they set out to, a lot of the things they set out to in their life say the same thing, Lisa.
And, you know, I have a really similar story. My career's advisor was like, no, you're not smart enough. And what's interesting is that, so I can't, you're a manifesting generator, aren't you? Yes.
Yeah. So, you know, you and I both have that sacral generator energy. Are you emotional though? Are you an emotional generator? You're a sacral generator, manifesting generator.
Yeah. So we have that innate sort of quality about us that literally what our gift to the collective is to follow what lights us up. Right.
And this is the interesting thing about human design, hey, because I think a lot of people, once they learn about their design, they're like, man, I've been living that my whole life. Now I just have the rule book or the tool, the toolkit, sorry, to work with those things. But, you know, even to the point where we've been shut down, like people have blatantly told us we can't do what we want.
We've had that fire in us somewhere that has been like, we'll see about that. Let's just wait and see about that. Exactly.
So interesting. And then so, because I'm a bit the same, hey, like when through manifesting my aviation career, I didn't really get into, I mean, I loved the secret. I loved all things witchcraft and magic all my whole life, but it wasn't until I was probably in my early twenties that I started really thinking about manifestation and intentionally manifesting was not until my late twenties.
And so that has kind of been the place for me where my spirituality has evolved and broadened. And I've got a lot, I've got a really beautiful connection now that I'm just so grateful for. So manifestation was a portal to that for me.
But I think for you, you were kind of like, you had the spiritual connection the whole time, right? And so when you were at uni and when you were bringing, you know, doing all the hard work and did you, were you kind of, I know this sounds weird, but were you out and proud about your spirituality at uni? You know, I probably, I probably wasn't. I think that for me, because it was just a way of being, I just was me. I just, you know, I didn't do anything any differently.
And oftentimes, you know, and I still, to this day, you know, around my colleagues, they just, it's like everyone knew, but no one, no one asked and no one spoke of it because no one questioned, you know, like they just kind of all like knew that Lisa will say something that is just a little bit different, but it's true or it's right. Or, you know, and we don't know where that comes from or how that works, but we just go with it because she, you know, she's so truly authentic in it that we just have to, like, it was just, it was really quite odd. I mean, I've, you know, my sister and I created a Ouija board out of a piece of plywood, you know, I would have been like 12 and she would have been like 10 and it was like a piece of plywood and we had to, you know, planchette and we would, we're called working the board.
I mean, we didn't even really know, but we just knew that that connection was there and we knew there was something outside of, of what we were always told, you know, and that there was more to it and to not believe in the, the dogma that you get force fed. I remember as a child, this is a little bit, but I remember as a child, I would have been like seven or eight years old and my dad asked me, because I always said I didn't believe in God, I didn't believe in a, in a, in this man who ruled everything, like, you know, as far as that was my conception of who God was and there was this man that had control and my father asked, he said, if you don't believe in God, then how do you know how to be a good person? And I looked at him and I said, because I believe in me. And, and, you know, and I was like, literally, I was like seven or eight years old and that's like always stuck with me.
It's like, you know, if you don't believe in God, then you're not a good person. And it's like, but I am a good person because I believe in me. I know who I am.
I know I believe that, you know, in what I believe in myself. And so it was, that's always, you know, stayed with me in that truly trusted me. And I trusted in my innate senses and my skills as knowing, you know, when things were going to happen and having that connection to spirit and having those psychic abilities and just never questioning it.
And yeah. And so incredible. Like I haven't met too many people that have just trusted it.
So with so much ease, like as in for you, it sounds like it's just such a natural part of your being. So the whole concept of being a doctor and a spiritual, you know, psychic and animal communicator, they don't have to be separate, but a lot of people would probably feel the resistance to showing up as both and all of that. Right.
So I just love that. It's just such a natural part of you that you've just really loved that. It sounds like you've loved it your whole life.
Absolutely. It's hard because, you know, you, it's not that, you know, I still, you know, when you're now, of course, I don't pull any bones around, you know, particularly now with social media and, you know, kind of being on stage, you know, I mean, before that, you weren't really on stage. And so people weren't putting two and two together.
But now in social media, you know, you are, you're on stage and you have to be comfortable with who you are and to take on, you know, the people who want to, you know, be dickheads and, you know, try and say, oh, well, because she does pet tarot, she's not a good vet, you know, and they do, you know, people do. But, you know, for me, it's just like, well, it doesn't matter because, again, I know what I can do. And I know what I'm able to do.
And I know all of the validations and the acknowledgements that I receive that allow me to kind of go, well, that's really their problem, not really mine, you know, in the sense that, you know, they're not really very comfortable in themselves in that kind of ability to trust in their intuition and, you know, that kind of thing. And it's, it's funny, because all of my colleagues, they all don't talk about it. But they all trust it also, because they will, you know, I will say to them, you know, that I'll say, oh, this is what's going on.
And they go, well, how do you know that? And it's just like, it's just because, you know, they've told me and it's, you know, and I will say those kinds of things. And they never say, well, hang on. But then they never say, I'm not, I don't believe you.
So that's just kind of this unsaid, unspoken word in the clinic about it. Oh, that's really interesting. I do feel as if the people that are most critical and the ones that are likely to be throwing stones on the internet, in particular, are often ones that, from my perspective, are probably missing out on something, that kind of aspect of themselves a little bit, you know, like those projections, you know, and it's, it's a little bit sad, but you do have to be a little bit bold.
And, you know, that eight year old or seven year old Lisa, who said, because I believe in me, that that little Lisa is there every day, probably helping you be bold enough to show up sharing your gifts on social media, which I know, even when you, when you believe in yourself, when you believe in your abilities, and you know that you're having a huge positive impact in the world, I know how hard it is to have people fling mud at you. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And so showing up, you know, and kind of continuing to show up despite that, I think is not only testament to your dedication to your work, but also to your inner strength and your ability to kind of put the, because when it comes down to it, Lisa, it's not about us, right? Like our work is not really about us.
It's about having impact, positive impact on other people. And so, yeah, exactly. Exactly.
I always think about it. And I can, I have, you know, one person in mind that is just continuously shitbagging me. And it's always interesting, because, you know, there's moments where I want to, you know, get on the keyboard and just, you know, and then I think, well, no, it's really great free advertising, because people are going to be like, what, what is pet terror? What is this, you know, and it's like, yeah, I'll just let them continue to shitbag me, because, you know, if people are going to be going, well, hang on a second, what is this all about? You know, so I find it, I just say that it's, it's good, good advertising.
Yeah, yeah, I love that. I mean, the Kardashians would definitely agree with that. Like, there's no bad PR or it's, you know, that's right.
Yeah, I love that. I love that perspective. It's funny, though.
I remember the first time people, someone in particular on, you know, on my tarot lives started heckling me, telling me that I was doing the devil's work. I got so distracted, Lisa, I was like, how can they say that about me? Like, I'm the most caring fucking loving person ever. I've got a potty mouth, but I'm a nice human.
You know, and it wasn't until afterwards, I got off and I was rattled, hey, I was rattled, because I wasn't used to going live and, and, you know, doing all the things. And I said to Clay, oh, my God, I've really upset people. And his response to me was fuck the haters, babe.
Exactly. Love that. I'm like, thank God I've got a husband that just is like, you do you, boo.
Yeah, exactly. No, that's, that's right. And it's so important to have that kind of, I think, support system around you that, you know, you can have that moment.
Because I know with my partner, Lisa, you know, I same thing, you know, I'll say, oh, someone so and so's, you know, shitbagging me or that kind of thing. And, and she will just be like, oh, fuck them. Just like no sense in worrying about it.
Because, you know, that's the only thing you can control is your response to that. So yeah, it is important to have that. Yeah, I often think about that, actually, with, you know, women that I coach and other people in our sort of industries that are struggling a little bit with being visible, like the visibility around sharing your gifts, especially as a sole lead entrepreneur, especially as a spiritual person, and someone that also has, you know, a very serious day job, right? Like, yeah.
And for you and I, we've got supportive partners, but there's a lot of people out there that don't have partners at home, cheering them on to, you know, saying fuck the haters when they get heckled. And I just really think that it's so important for anyone out there who's, you know, really feeling the pushback against them stepping into what they know they love when they're sharing their gifts. Like, if you don't have a partner at home to support you, like surround yourself with the right community, you know, because there are so many people, the internet's a funny fucking place, right? Because you can, if you go into the wrong places, you will get dragged down and you will feel not very happy, potentially miserable, potentially depressed.
But if you go into the right spaces, you will be uplifted with the most incredibly supportive humans. And so my message to anyone who is out there sharing their gifts boldly with the world and maybe feeling a bit scared to show up and do it, like make sure you surround yourself. And, you know, like Lisa's community is amazing.
Lisa, you've got a Facebook group called, is it Animal Connection with Dr. Lisa? Yeah. And so that's a Facebook place that you can join. Obviously our social media is Level Up with Katie B. Come and hang out.
Like we want to be around people. We want to cheer you on, right, Lisa? Exactly. No, it's so true.
I mean, it's, you know, it's as you step into your leadership, you know, and put yourself out there, you know. You know, I didn't always have a partner who, you know, who had my back. And so you do have to trust that you that you will call in your tribe and it is your tribe who will support you and who will be your number one, you know, cheering section and your number one supporters and will always be there and be, you know, the first to go against the haters and say, you know, you know, fucking nothing.
And so it's, it is true. You really find your tribe, find your people and stay in your lane, you know, not don't worry about what everyone else is doing or saying or how they're doing it or what they're saying, but just really stay in your lane and trust that going to take you to where you need to go without a doubt. Yeah.
So, so awesome. And I circling back to, I think I started talking about your human design earlier and then kind of got waylaid, but going back to that, that is exactly the whole purpose of learning to work with your human design as well, because it helps you trust that the more you, that you are brave enough to be, the more you attract the right peoples, the right opportunity, the right synchronicities, they start dropping in. All you have to do is be brave enough to be yourself, right? Exactly.
Exactly. That is exactly. So, so cool, Lisa.
Well, I have loved hearing all your stories. I think you, well, you know, I've got a lot of love and respect for you. I think your work is incredible and I'm so grateful that you are out there sharing your magic with the world, empowering more people to be able to connect with their, not only heal the animals physically, but be able to connect with their animals on a deeper emotional, spiritual, and beautiful level.
So where can we hang out with you? What is your, you've got a few different places, right? Yeah. Yeah. So you can always go to my website, which is www.animalconnection.net. And there's lots of stuff.
You will meet Spencer on my website. So Spencer is my pug Shih Tzu, who is the love of my life. And, and he is a big player in the creation of my pet partnership program and the pet tarot therapy.
So he has been a big influence in coming from the animal's perspective around the meanings of, of the tarot cards and those connections. And so, so you'll meet Spencer on my, on my website, also on Facebook. So my Facebook group is Animal Connection with Dr. Lisa, and I have a business page, which is Animal Connection with Dr. Lisa.
But the Facebook group is, is where the community is and where I, you know, share lots of stuff and, you know, do go live and do readings and do boot camps and challenges and, and all those kinds of things to help people really unlock their, their gifts that they already have. It's just that they've been told that it was their imagination or a figment of their imagination when we were kids, you know, and we felt like we could fly with the birds and talk with the animals and, and, you know, our parents are telling us that we were crazy. You weren't.
We totally were. You totally were. So you've got it in you.
So yeah. Yeah. So cool.
And so true. I don't know. I've maybe it's because of the circles I hang in, but I feel like we need as many people as possible to reconnect with their intuition, their spirituality, their connection to not only animals, but plants and our planet.
And, you know, starting with your beautiful fur babies is a great place because you already have that incredible connection. That love, that love is like nothing else. Right.
You know, I, when you say like Spencer is the love of your life, I can totally relate to that. My fur babies. Oh, fuck.
I love them. Yeah. Yeah.
And it's so unconditional, isn't it? Like they just, they never, they never ask for anything in return from us, you know? I mean, obviously, you know, they, they require us to care for them, to feed and, you know, water and, and give them a home and, and those kinds of things. But as far as any other support, they are just totally giving, you know, and they're totally there and they're totally present. And they're in that moment, you know, with you supporting you and just giving love, you know, that's just giving that love to, to get you through whatever it is that you've got to get through in that moment, you know, and it's like, you know, whether you're, you know, crying over heart, the heartbreak or laughing over something silly that they've done or, you know, said, I mean, you know, Spencer cracks me up all the time.
He says some of the most ridiculous things. I think, where the fuck does that come from? You know, and he thinks it's hilarious. You know, and I'm like, and there are words and terms that I don't use in my daily language.
So I know it's not coming from me, you know, and he's just like sitting there thinking it's the funniest fucking thing he's ever said. And I'm like, dude, you're really not that funny, but, you know. Oh God, I love it.
I love it so much. Lisa, thank you so much for taking the time to share your stories with us. I totally appreciate it.
And for everyone listening, I will link all Lisa's places where she is on the wonderful world of the web in the show notes. Oh, thank you so much for having me, Katie. It was great sitting here and having a chat with you and your listeners.
And and yeah, I think, you know, what you do is amazing. And I've got such, you know, respect for for you and as a human design expert and a terror therapist and and a captain. Captain Katie, you know, I mean, holy fuck, you know, how amazing is that? So, you know, amazing.
Thanks, Lisa. Totally appreciate that. Oh, my God, I loved this chat with Lisa, and I really hope that you enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed recording it.
I loved hearing about how Lisa went all in on her vet career, following her excitement, trusting that it was guiding her in the right direction. Totally sacral manifesting generator energy up in here. And she followed it even before she knew about her human design.
Right. I talk about this all the time. Most of you are actually embodying your design quite a lot already.
It's just that when you bring intention to it, it infuses more potency into your manifestation process. So like who doesn't want more of that action? I'm so grateful for the work she does in both her vet career and her business, teaching you how to communicate with your fur babies. I really hope that this episode gives you a little bit more proof that a if you want it, you can have it, whether it be your career, your business, whatever else you've had your eyes on the prize for.
You can manifest that shit. I promise you, you can and be that you already actually know how to communicate with your fur baby. You might just need a little help unlocking more of that and trusting yourself more.
And Lisa will a hundred percent be able to support you on that journey as well. You'll find all the links mentioned today in the show notes until next week, we're going to be doing what's next week. Oh, the April energy report.
Looking forward to that until then take care, keep milking the shit out of life and I'll catch you next week.
